Previously:
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Links of interest:
The Citadel loses to Florida State, 66-55
Bulldogs defeat Warren Wilson College, 84-55
The Citadel loses 59-55 to College of Charleston
Bulldogs outlast Navy, 67-60 (also, comments from Chuck Driesell and Jake Wright)
Marshall Harris and his experiences on a basketball mission trip
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After four games this season, The Citadel was 2-2. After eight games, the Bulldogs are 4-4. The most recent of those contests was The Citadel’s first victory of the season over a Division I team, an entertaining 67-60 win over Navy.
– The Citadel’s 66-55 loss to Florida State was a 53-possession affair, which worked to the Bulldogs’ advantage. What didn’t work to the cadets’ advantage was FSU shooting 60.5% from the field. The Seminoles were also 14-20 from the foul line (the Bulldogs only attempted six free throws).
Florida State was missing two of its regular starters, but got a wondrous offensive performance from freshman Xavier Rathan-Mayes, who scored 26 points on only nine field goal attempts (he was 5-5 from beyond the arc, and also 5-5 from the charity stripe). The Bulldogs did not help themselves by committing thirteen turnovers (a 24.5% TO rate).
From the AP story linked above:
Driesell didn’t mince words when asked what was the biggest thing his team took from a midweek ACC game. “First and foremost it gives our school a lot of money,” Driesell said. “That’s probably the No. 1 reason I’m down here, is for the check.”
Okay…
– The next game for The Citadel was its final non-D1 game of the season, an 84-45 pummeling of Warren Wilson College. Five different Bulldogs finished in double figures, led by Ashton Moore’s 15 points.
Of the three games against non-Division I competition, it was The Citadel’s most complete effort.
– The Citadel actually led College of Charleston 55-54 with 48 seconds to play, but the Cougars scored the final five points of the contest. It was reminiscent of the season opener against VMI in the sense that The Citadel had a chance to win, and actually was in the lead with less than a minute to go, but couldn’t make the plays late to pull out a victory.
The Bulldogs committed 17 turnovers, which was the key factor in the loss. Otherwise,a lot of things went well — The Citadel had an outstanding shooting night from three-point land, made most of its free throws (though a late-game miss was critical), worked hard on the offensive glass, and controlled the pace.
The Citadel was 9-16 from beyond the arc, which was great. Unfortunately, the Bulldogs made the same number of shots from inside the three-point line, finishing 9-30 in their two-point attempts (which looks even worse when compared to CofC making 19 of 35 shots in and around the paint).
– The victory over Navy was much-needed. The Midshipmen are struggling right now (partly due to a run of injuries), but the Bulldogs had to beat a D-1 team to gain some confidence heading into conference play.
The game featured twelve lead changes. Neither team led by more than two possessions until The Citadel put the contest away at the line in the dying seconds.
It was a rugged matchup, as the officials “let them play”. The physical nature of the game appeared to occasionally test the patience of a few of the Bulldogs. On the other hand, C.J. Bray seemed to enjoy mixing a little football into his hoops.
Jake Wright was the offensive star for the Bulldogs. He attempted ten shots from the field, all three-pointers, and made six of them, finishing with 21 points. The only other player for The Citadel to ever score as many points in a game against Navy was Ed Conroy, who also scored 21 in a 1989 victory.
Both were home games, though (trivia!) not in the same building. While Wright displayed a fine shooting touch at McAlister Field House last Saturday, Conroy’s performance was in…Deas Hall.
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Next up for the Bulldogs:
– SoCon play begins this Thursday at McAlister Field House, as Chattanooga comes to town. After the league opener, however, the Bulldogs won’t play another conference game until January 3 (at Western Carolina).
The Mocs are 4-5, with two D-1 wins, one of which came against Coastal Carolina. Chattanooga is looking for its first road victory of the season. UTC was picked to finish second in the SoCon this season by the league’s coaches and by its media cohort as well.
– After the game versus Chattanooga, The Citadel will play two road games against major conference schools in three days (December 20 and 22). The Bulldogs travel to Blacksburg to square off with Virginia Tech (now helmed by Buzz Williams), and follow that up with a visit to the Breslin Center and a matchup with a solid Michigan State squad, well-coached as always by Tom Izzo.
– The Citadel’s final game of 2014 will take place at McAlister Field House on December 30, as the Bulldogs host Bethune-Cookman. The Wildcats are currently 3-6, with a victory over Jacksonville in their most recent contest. Bethune-Cookman will play two straight road games against SoCon teams, as B-C faces Mercer on December 19.
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It’s probable that if you are not living in or around the Lowcountry, you may not have seen/heard some recent comments by Charleston Southern head coach Barclay Radebaugh. He is unhappy that CSU is not playing College of Charleston or The Citadel in basketball this season (and also didn’t play either school last year).
This got a little play on local television, with some carryover on Twitter. I think it’s fair to sum up the positions of the various parties like this:
- Local media: wants the games to be played; not particularly concerned about the issues involved
- Charleston Southern: desperately wants the games to be played
- College of Charleston: not interested
- The Citadel: also not interested
I wish one of the local reporters had asked Radebaugh if he would be amenable to playing at CofC and at The Citadel exclusively, or a 2-for-1 setup, or for CSU to move its home games against those schools to the North Charleston Coliseum.
Charleston Southern currently plays its home games at a gym that seats only 881 people. I would suggest that coaches and administrators at CofC/The Citadel are simply no longer willing to play there.
The fact is that these matchups are only beneficial to Charleston Southern. The other two schools get little to nothing out of playing CSU.
Longtime observers of the Lowcountry sports scene may remember that Charleston Southern and The Citadel did not play for a six-year period between 1986 and 1992, the direct result of a conflict over playing/administering games at CSU (then Baptist College). This isn’t a new issue.
I don’t blame Radebaugh for speaking out. He has a good team, and he wants part of the publicity that tends to accrue to Charleston’s two schools.
It’s just that CSU is not, as he stated in his presser, “inner-city rivals” of CofC/The Citadel. It isn’t a true rival for either of those institutions, and it’s certainly not in the inner city. It’s a relatively young school located in North Charleston.
Radebaugh also mentioned that games between CSU and the other two schools were “highly attended”.
I went back and looked at attendance figures for certain games over the past few years at McAlister Field House, North Charleston Coliseum, and TD Arena (for consistency, I’m referring to CofC’s basketball facility by that name). This is just a cross-section; it’s not meant to be definitive. Still, I think it is illuminating:
- 11/20/08 at North Charleston Coliseum: CofC-CSU. Attendance: 2835
- 11/25/08 at North Charleston Coliseum: The Citadel-CSU. Attendance: 2085
- 1/10/09 at McAlister Field House: Davidson-The Citadel. Attendance: 5336
- 1/12/09 at McAlister Field House: Chattanooga-The Citadel. Attendance: 1326
- 1/24/09 at McAlister Field House: CofC-The Citadel. Attendance: 5107
- 2/12/09 at McAlister Field House: App State-The Citadel. Attendance: 2178
- 2/14/09 at TD Arena: The Citadel-CofC. Attendance: 5168
- 2/26/09 at McAlister Field House: Furman-The Citadel. Attendance: 4219
- 2/28/09 at McAlister Field House: Wofford-The Citadel. Attendance: 4485
- 11/13/09 at McAlister Field House: Kenyon-The Citadel. Attendance: 1031
- 11/17/09 at McAlister Field House: CSU-The Citadel. Attendance: 1268
- 12/5/09 at TD Arena: Davidson-CofC. Attendance: 3062
- 12/16/09 at TD Arena: CSU-CofC. Attendance: 3067
- 1/9/10 at McAlister Field House: CofC-The Citadel. Attendance: 5370
- 1/21/10 at TD Arena: Furman-CofC. Attendance: 3248
- 2/8/10 at TD Arena: The Citadel-CofC. Attendance: 5154
- 12/2/10 at TD Arena: Davidson-CofC. Attendance: 4361
- 12/2/10 at McAlister Field House: Ga. Southern-The Citadel. Attendance: 2058
- 12/4/10 at TD Arena: Georgia Southern-CofC. Attendance: 2417
- 12/15/10 at North Charleston Coliseum: CofC-CSU. Attendance: 2722
- 1/13/11 at McAlister Field House: Chattanooga-The Citadel. Attendance: 1653
- 1/15/11 at TD Arena: The Citadel-CofC. Attendance: 5162
- 1/22/11 at McAlister Field House: WCU-The Citadel. Attendance: 2143
- 1/20/11 at McAlister Field House: App State-The Citadel. Attendance: 1519
- 2/3/11 at McAlister Field House: Furman-The Citadel. Attendance: 2289
- 2/3/11 at TD Arena: Wofford-CofC. Attendance: 5038
- 2/5/11 at McAlister Field House: Wofford-The Citadel. Attendance: 2206
- 2/5/11 at TD Arena: Furman-CofC. Attendance: 5081
- 2/17/11 at McAlister Field House: CofC-The Citadel. Attendance: 4131
- 11/21/11 at McAlister Field House: Fla. Christian-The Citadel. Attendance: 807
- 12/1/11 at TD Arena: The Citadel-CofC. Attendance: 5101
- 12/3/11 at TD Arena: Chattanooga-CofC. Attendance: 4358
- 12/6/11 at McAlister Field House: C. Carolina-The Citadel. Attendance: 1409
- 12/12/11 at TD Arena: CSU-CofC. Attendance: 3765
- 12/14/11 at McAlister Field House: CSU-The Citadel. Attendance: 1129
- 1/26/12 at TD Arena: Furman-CofC. Attendance: 4011
- 1/28/12 at McAlister Field House: Furman-The Citadel. Attendance: 1602
- 1/28/12 at TD Arena: Wofford-CofC. Attendance: 4151
- 2/11/12 at TD Arena: Davidson-CofC. Attendance: 5112
- 2/25/12 at McAlister Field House: CofC-The Citadel. Attendance: 4166
- 1/5/13 at TD Arena: Furman-CofC. Attendance: 3885
- 1/14/13 at McAlister Field House: CofC-The Citadel. Attendance: 2742
- 1/24/13 at TD Arena: The Citadel-CofC. Attendance: 4118
- 2/16/13 at McAlister Field House: Davidson-The Citadel. Attendance: 2015
- 2/28/13 at McAlister Field House: Furman-The Citadel. Attendance: 2046
There are a couple of conclusions to draw from this list:
1) The Citadel can put plenty of people in the seats if the team is reasonably competitive. All too often in recent years, that hasn’t been the case. You can bet that Jim Senter is calculating the difference in potential ticket sales.
2) Regardless of how good/bad the teams are in a given year, Charleston Southern just isn’t a big draw for either The Citadel or College of Charleston.
As anyone reading this post probably knows, The Citadel plays multiple home contests against non-D1 teams (and no, I don’t really like those games). The school has to have a certain number of home games each season, and often non-D1s are the only teams The Citadel can play without a return game being required.
It doesn’t do The Citadel any good to play a home-and-home against Charleston Southern if attendance at McAlister Field House isn’t going to be much (if at all) better than a game versus a non-D1. I’m sure the same is true for CofC (if anything, the issue is probably an even bigger one for that program).
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Odds and ends:
– I attended the contest against Navy, and enjoyed the game and the surrounding atmosphere. There were about 250 cadets in attendance, and they made a difference. The commandant deserves credit for his assistance in that area.
I’m not sure how many cadets will be able to attend the UTC contest, due to exams beginning the next day.
– The game featured a hard-working DJ, which was fine (playing The Village People’s “In the Navy” was a nice touch).
I did wonder about the absence of the pep band. There may have been a conflict. The band can get stretched at this time of year, to be sure.
– The Citadel is currently last in Division I in adjusted tempo, and in a related development is also last in average length of offensive possessions (22.6 seconds).
I favor that style of play, as I think it is the best fit for the players on the roster. I’m hoping it can also negatively affect other teams, making them rush their own possessions or in some other way get out of sorts.
However, to be fully effective the Bulldogs must improve their defensive numbers, which are poor across the board. There are some things that can’t really be controlled (like opponents shooting 76.5% from the foul line), but there are others that must be fixed. Just to name one issue, The Citadel has allowed too many offensive rebounds, which is one reason teams have a high shooting percentage against the Bulldogs from inside the arc.
The Bulldogs are doing a better job of forcing turnovers so far this season, which is good. However, their own turnover rate has also risen. That has to change.
The Citadel also has a tendency to have pronounced scoring droughts. The offense has to be more consistent if the Bulldogs are going to have success in the Southern Conference.
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Here are a few pictures from the game versus Navy. As usual, they aren’t very good…
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